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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 25 Jun 2008 17:32:52 IST
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Q In fig, the upper wire is made of steel and the lower of copper. The wires have equal cross - section. Find the ratio of the longitudinal strains developed inthe two wires.
The fig shows a wire , almost half of which is steel and rest is copper. This is hanging from the celing with cu part downward. An unspecified mass is attached with the end of the wire ( cu part )
Actually this from page, 300 of hcv vol I, q 5
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 25 Jun 2008 17:36:42 IST
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plz show all assumptions mathematically.
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 25 Jun 2008 17:41:28 IST
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ok i am typing the solution
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 25 Jun 2008 17:45:41 IST
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acoording to the figure iam taking the the length of entire wire as 2L
so each one has a length of L
let the tension be T and is equal for both the wires
Y (steel)= TL/ A delta L (steel)
Y( copper)= TL/ A delta (copper)
divide the both equations
u will get the ans as 20/13 or 1.53
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 25 Jun 2008 17:50:20 IST
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1. Y is not supplied.
2.let the tension be T and is equal for both the wires-----------why ? there r 2 wires and both have a certain mass.
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 25 Jun 2008 17:51:12 IST
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i assumed the string to be massles
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 25 Jun 2008 17:52:18 IST
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and about youngs modulus its given in the question just above ur question...........usually HCV does not provide data for each and every ques he provides hem in the begining ques
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 25 Jun 2008 17:58:21 IST
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no yaar, something is missing our mind.!!!!
I don't know. But something.
Can it be done with FBD assuming length of wire to be same ?
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 25 Jun 2008 18:02:52 IST
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nothing is missing i suppose............how can it be done using FBD first of all the 2 wires are made of different material and plus the mass of the attached thng is not given
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 25 Jun 2008 18:09:07 IST
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no . I m not satisfied.
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 25 Jun 2008 18:14:41 IST
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1. I consider the strings have some mass ---at least they should have
2. Y is not supplied unlike Q no 4
3. the lower mass , say m
Then how will be the FBD ? Or, is it the correct approach?
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 25 Jun 2008 18:15:05 IST
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its the 5 ques of the chapter rght..........so i dont think there too much too think ........usually HCV puts the first 10 ques easy enough so that we learn the formula............
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 25 Jun 2008 18:15:24 IST
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I can give u the strain developed in the wire due its own wt and a load at the end , Do u need that ?
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 25 Jun 2008 18:17:00 IST
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Surely u r joking Mr. Feynman .
I want both lemon and cream.
Both strai developed and soln. he he he !!
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 25 Jun 2008 18:17:15 IST
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ur approach should be correct if in the que the assumptions mentioned by u are given but here its not given anythng...........
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