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H C Verma - Circular Motion
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Q no. 20, 21(b), 22(b)(c)(d), 24, 25, 26, 27(c)(d), 29(b)
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 by bhuvankar
we get a range of ws due to the fact that frictn can act both in the upwards and the downwords dirns..........
first let us assume that fn is acting in the upwards dirn...........then we have for vertical eqbm...
Ncos@ + KNsin$=mg.......(K=coeff of fn)
from here we have N=mg/(ksin$+cos$).............1)
then for horizontal eqbm.........we have,(seeing in pseudo frame we apply an outward centrifugal force.......)
kNcos$= Nsin$ + mw2 Rsin$..........
substituting for N from 1) we get the expn that.......
g(sin$-Kcos$)/(ksin$+cos$) = w2 Rsin$
on simplifying which we get the expn for w as..........
sqrt(g(sin$-Kcos$)/((Rsin$)(ksin$+cos$)))...............
similarly on reversing the dirn of frn.ie in dwnwrd dirn.......we will get our result as sqrt(g(sin$+Kcos$)/((Rsin$)(ksin$+cos$))).................
 
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tan = v^2/rg =  = 0.58 = 1/root3
 
therefroe theta = 30
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by amangupta
25. at highest point the normal acc. is g, it can be considered a circle with centirpetal acc=g
thus v^2/r=g
or r=V^2/g and v at highest point is gcosx.
thus answer is (vcos theta)^2/g.

and 27(c) the normal reaction is mv^2/r
and frictional force is the only force acting in tangentail direction thus acc=uN/m
=uv^2/r and since it is opposing motion, the negative sign is added
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So we have the inst. acc. as -v2 /r
And we all know chain rule !!
So we can write V=dS/dt=dS/dV*dV/dt  ---------------------------(1)

by madmax , refer earlier post
Rearranging we get the eqn they have given which is dv/dt=v(dV/dS)

I'll just continue with eqn (1)
Take dv on the other side ,substitute dV/dt=v2/r and rearrange the eqn to get

(1/V)dV=(-/r)dS

The question is for one revolution so integrate S from 0 to 2r and dV from Vo to V........where Vo is init vel
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net accln = g ..............1
 
 
but net accln is givem by root [  v^4/r^2  + (dv)^2/(dt)^2]............2
 
where dv/dt = a .............3.
 
from 1,2,3
 
we get v = fourth root [ (^2g^2  - a^2 )R^2 ]
 
21 b very much similar to this
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thanx. pls do 22 & 26 as well.
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frictional force xerted at b and d is clearly zero
 
at c frictioanl force s xerted along d line
that slant line
 thus resolve all d forces over ther
 
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26) Q is taken as theeta {not a method 2 solve the problemeasier typing)
 
   let v be the velocity at the desired point
  horizontal component remains unchanged------->v cos Q/2 = u cos Q
                                                                              v= u cos Q/ cos Q/2..(1)
  radial acceleration is the component of acc perpendicular to velocity
  acceleration radial = g cos Q/2
  v^2 /r =  g cos Q/2....................................(2)
 
substituting  v from .......(1) in (2)
r =( u^2 cos^2 Q) / g cos^3 Q/2
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22)
1ST CASE
SINCE IT IS A CIRCULAR PATH THE ACCLERATION IS V2/R TOWARDS THE CENTERE
MG-N=MV2/R
2ND CASE
THE ACCLERATION IS MV2/R TOWARDS THE CENTERE
N-MG =MV2/R



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