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pls solve q nos. 43, 45, 49, 50, 51, 52, 57-64. pls help especially in q nos. 57-64. with explanations also. thanx.


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see cos37=h/L=4/5 L=elongated length of spring

h/L=4/5
let x be the extension in spring
hence, L=h+x
5h=4h+4x
x=h/4
also loss in pe=gain in ke

1/2(kx^2)=1/2(mv^2)
v^2=kh^2/16m

v=h/4 root(k/m)

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45) since there is no non-conservative forces
the maximum elongation
mgh=1/2kx^2
or the decrease in height is propotional t increase in the elongation
hieght decreased is x if the springs elongation is x
therefore
mgx=1/2kx^2
therefore x is 2mg/k
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49)
if the block moves in a complete circle then the radius is 2l
therefore the work done against gravity is 2mgl
therefore 1/2mv^2=2mgl
therefore v-root 2gl
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pls do the others as well.
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sum no 50)
sinc ethere is no ext. force acting the mechanichal energy will
i know the principe but i cant figure out at what elongation will the block break free
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thats what i was stuck in. neways try others.
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sum no 61)
N+mg=mv^2/r
n>0
mv^2/r=mg at leat
thus v=rootrg

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its out of my capability
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ok thanx for those ans which u did.
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 but others pls help me out.
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nobody is able to these????
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50)
the natural length is 0.4 and let the xtended length be 0.4+x
mg=kxcos@
cos@=mg/kx
which is also equa to 0.4/0.4+x
solving which we get x as 0.1
mgh=1/2mv^2+1/2mv^2+kx^2
since velocity of both the blocks will be the same
solving it we wll get v as 1.5
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I WILL SOLVE THE REST OF THE SUMS LATER
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could anyone solve sum no 57-64
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Here is 59 solved by Biki.

let angle made =  (as shown in figure)
let v = velocity just before falling
So at an instant just before falling---
mv2/r = mg.cos _____(1).........where m = mass, r = radius of the sphere
or v2/r = g.cos _____(1)
 
again change in K.E. = (1/2)mv2 - 0 ......as initial velocity = 0
and loss in P.E. mg(r - r.cos)
So (1/2)mv2 = mg(r - r.cos)
or v2/2 = gr (1 - cos)
or v2/r = 2g(1 - cos)
or g.cos = 2g - 2g.cos
or 3g.cos = 2g
or cos = 2/3
or  = cos-1(2/3)

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could u solve the other sums
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Here u find another of Biki. Q.56.

Consider the first figure ...
In this fig. we will find out what should be the velocity of the bob at the lowest position so that the string becomes slack ( i,e, T = 0 )  at the horizontal diameter..
Now the weight acts perpendicular to the tension at this position and so has no component along the string....
So taking v =velocity at that point and T = tension and l = length of string....
we have T = mv2/l..
Now let u = velocity of the bob at lowest position so that the bob acquires velocity = v at the horizontal diameter....
So ... 1/2.mu2 = 1/2mv2 + mgl
or v2 = u2 - 2gl
Using this in equ^n of T.... we have
T = m(u2 - 2gl)/l
If string becomes slack.... T = 0
i,e, m(u2 - 2gl)/l = 0
or u2 - 2gl = 0
or u = 2gl
So we see that if velocity at lowest position should be equal to 2gl such that the string becomes slack at the horizontal diameter...
And see HCV-1 page 128 , example 8 where you will find that the velocity at lowesrt position  such that the bob complets a full circle is 5gl .
So we conclude that.....
if velocity is less than 2gl, then string becomes slack below the horizontal diameter.
if velocity = 2gl, then string becomes slack at horizontal diameter..
if velocity is greater than 2gl but less than 5gl, then string becomes slack in the region between the horizontal diameter and the topmost position....



Taking this into consideration.... the question says that in the question the string becomes slack between the horizontal diameter and the topmost position...as velocity = 3gl...
Now consider fig. 2
Let velocity at lowest position = u =3gl
velocity at the point of slackening = v
So ...
taking the angles as shown in fig.
we write.....
T + mg.cos = mv2/l
for string to become slack ... T = 0
i,e, mg.cos = mv2/l
or gl.cos = v2 _________ (1)
And using energy conservation .....
1/2mu2 = 1/2mv2 + mg( l + l.cos )
i,e, v2 = u2 - 2gl ( 1 + cos )
or v2 = 3gl - 2gl - 2gl.cos
or v2 = gl - 2gl.cos ________(2)
Using (2) in (1)...
gl.cos = gl - 2gl.cos
or 3gl.cos = gl
or cos = (1/3)
or cos (180 -  ) = (1/3) .........[ as  = 180 -  ]
or - cos = (1/3)
or cos = (-1/3)
i,e,  = cos-1(-1/3)

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pls anyone solvew these sums



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