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A spring balance inside a elevator has a pulley connected to it.The pulley has 1.5kg on one and 3kg on the other side.The elevator is going up with an accelaration of g/10.The pulley and string are light and the pulley is smooth.What is the reading of the spring balance.


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i hope u can take out the acc. of the system and tension in the pulleys by using g effective( i.e. when acc. upwards geff= g +a


for downwards geff= g-a) instead of g


now the spring balance reading will be double the tension using constraint

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the answer is 4.4 kg but how?tell me
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THE ELEVATOR IS MOVING UPWARS WITH AN ACC OF 1MS
SO THE RESULTANT ACC OF GRAVITY WILL BE 11
BY APPLYING PSUEDO FORCE.
33-T=3A
T-16.5=1.5A
16.5=4.5A
A=3.66
T=22N
THE READING OF THE SPRING BALANCE WILL BE 2 WICE THE TENSION
SO
READING =44N
=4.4KG
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how 44N=4.4kg
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SIMPLE I KG=10N

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Q) A spring balance inside a elevator has a pulley connected to it.The pulley has 1.5kg on one and 3kg on the other side.The elevator is going up with an accelaration of g/10.The pulley and string are light and the pulley is smooth.What is the reading of the spring balance.



Solution) Let m1 = 1.5kg




m2 = 3kg be the masses attached to the string passing over the pulley.




Acceleration of the string w.r.t elevator = a




If tension in hte string = T




Then we have following equations



m1(g + a) = T or 1.5 (g + a) = T




and m2 (g - a) = T or 3(g - a) = T




Solving which we obtain a= 10/3 m.s-2 and T = 20N




Thus force on the spring balance through which pulley is attached = 2T = 40N




40N of force is equivalen to mass M = 40/g = 4kg




Now when elevator is moving up with acceleration g/10, then effective force on the spring balance = M (g + g/10)




= 4 (10 + 1) = 44N




Thus reading on spring balance corresponds to mass of 44N that is = 44/g = 44/10 = 4.4 kg


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T = tension in the string


 


A = accelaration of the blocks


 


a = accelaration of elevator


 


g = accelaration due to gravity


 


 now as the total system is in a moving frame a pseudo force starts acting on the particles in that system which is equal to  {mass of respective body x accelaration of system}.


 


Hence pseudo forces acting are '3a N' and '1.5a N'


 


3a+3g-T=3A ----- I


 


T-1.5g-1.5a=1.5A -----II


 


Eliminating A from both equations


 


taking g = 9.8 and a = .98


 


we get T = 21.56 N


 


hence on the spring balance


 


2T=mg


 



 


you get  m = 4.4 kg


 


 


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