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Hi friends ..its` time for revesion..
so let us take the important topics of physics one by one and discuss about the important points to remember and the general formulae and mistakes we do..
 
 
please contribute and discuss the things which will help us do score high..
 
RATES TO EVERY CONTRIBUTION....c`mon people,,,,,
 
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WORK ENERGY AND POWER
 
1)In the below diagram...work done by the applied force is same wether the force is applied horizontally or it is applied along the plane if the friction is absent.. if friction has been there than the work would have been different.....
see it yourself in ques>>12 of hcv
 
2) Work Energy Theorem
 
The work done by ALL the forces is equal to the change in kinetic energy,,,,wether the forces are conservative, non-conservative or external..
           W(c) + W(NC) + W(ext) = K(final) - K(initial)
 
3)In some questions like ques 17 of hcv ..if nothing is mentioned about friction..than also u hav to consider it and explore all the cases.
 
4)one important point I witnessed is that you should use g as 9.8 and not 10 when it is not given.It may cause some good variations otherwise especially in objective questions.
 
5)the work done is ?FRAME DEPENDENT??
For example>>>you cannot say that the work done by  static frictional force is zero?.if you observe it from ground frame for a two block system..it actually does work?.its true that the point of contact does not move relative to any body.
 
6) Energy is a scalar quantity and so no direction is required ..see ques number 21 in hcv.
 
7)In the same ques 21 and many other ques u will witness that the mass of the particle is not given??u urself think now what does it signify??
 
 
 
8)In some questions like ques 31 of hcv?u should develop the required constraint relation and than analyse each body separately??
 
Than see all the forces acting and the work they do..and you can apply the Work ?Energy theorem to it?.
 
But you should be Very careful in applying Law of conservation of mechanical energy?
 
9)The Law of conservation of mechanical Energy..
 
The 2 conditions you sould strictly follow while applying the law of conservation of mechanical energy are as follows>>>
 
(A)  The internal forces should be conservative..If the forces which are non-conservative like Friction are present than you can`t apply it?.
(B)  The external forces should be absent or the work done by them sould be zero?
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WORK= FORCE * DISPLACEMENT
 
1)
W= F.S= Fscos theta,,,,,
,,,,,,,,,theta is the angle between the line of action of force and the displacement..
 
2)
for a variable force
W=( integral of) F.ds
 
3)
W=(integral: of ) F.v dt
where F and v are all instantaneos
 

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hi tarun,
            let me discuss  the imp.formulas of circular motion:
 
 
 
 =d/dt
 
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v=r
 
centripetal force=mv2/r
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the centrifugal force is not a new force but a pseudo force

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centripatl force is  nt pesudo force
itz d force actin towrds d centre
magnitude=mass*radial acc
 
bt centrifugal force is a pseudo force
wich arise due 2 acc of d frame
 
itz nt real force
bt ahs magnitude saem as centripetal force
 
centrifugal force acts away frm d centre
 
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P.E.OF A SPRING IS 1/2KX2
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i wud like to discuss about frames...
i wrote it many days bfore.. but i think it to be very important..
plz wait ... i m searching

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the path of one projectile relative to another projectile in flight is a straight line

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lets discuss frames
 
once someone asked this ques. (fig.1) 
 
a block of mass m is kept on the surface of a rough car moving with acceleration "a"
in +icap direction.
what all forces are acting on 'm' whan it is viewed in ground frame as well as car frame
 
 
 
in ground (inertial) frame....(no pseudo force)
the body is pushed back due to motion of car.
Forces are:-
1) mg ( -j^)
2)reaction(N) by floor (+j^)
and N = mg
3)frictional force(f) = umg(+i^)
So the frictional force is supposed to provide the necessary force ma(+i^) on the body which makes it move as seen from ground
i,e, f = ma

in car (non inertial frame)
the block is still pushed back and remain at rest for an observer in the car at the pushed position
1) mg ( -j^)
2)reaction(N) by floor (+j^)
and N = mg
3)frictional force(f) = umg(+i^)
4)pseudo force = ma(-i^)
Since the body is at rest as seen from the car,
so f = ma

In both cases , f = ma.
But from ground .... its a single force which actually is f but its magnitude is equal to ma
and from car.... they are two different forces in opposite direction making the body stay at rest.
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same concept is applied for a ball hung from the ceiling of a car... (fig.2)
 
 
in ground (inertial) frame....(no pseudo force)
the ball is pushed back due to motion of car.
Forces are:-
1) mg ( -j^)
2)tension component Tsin (+i^) and tension component Tcos (+j^)
Now the tension component Tcos balances the weight of the body
Tcos = mg
So,tension component Tsin provides the necessary force whic makes the body move forward with accl^n a (as seen from ground) 
i,e, Tsin = ma

in car (non inertial frame)
the block is still pushed back and remain at rest for an observer in the car at the pushed position
1) mg ( -j^)
2)tension component Tsin (+i^) and tension component Tcos (+j^)
3)pseudo force = ma(-i^)
Since the ball is at rest as seen from the car,
so Tcos = mg
and Tsin = ma

In both cases , Tsin = ma
But from ground .... its a single force which actually is Tsin but its magnitude is equal to ma
and from car.... they are two different forces in opposite direction making the body stay at rest.
 
This proves ........ pseudo forces come only in non-inertial frames.
We may consider pseudo forces in inertial frame (here, ground frame) and arrive at the same result....... BUT THE CONCEPT REMAINS WRONG



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discussing a little theory on Work Power Energy
 
Consider the figure ...
In this fig. we will find out what should be the velocity of the bob at the lowest position so that the string becomes slack ( i,e, T = 0 )  at the horizontal diameter..
Now the weight acts perpendicular to the tension at this position and so has no component along the string....
So taking v =velocity at that point and T = tension and l = length of string....
we have T = mv2/l..
Now let u = velocity of the bob at lowest position so that the bob acquires velocity = v at the horizontal diameter....
So ... 1/2.mu2 = 1/2mv2 + mgl
or v2 = u2 - 2gl
Using this in equ^n of T.... we have
T = m(u2 - 2gl)/l
If string becomes slack.... T = 0
i,e, m(u2 - 2gl)/l = 0
or u2 - 2gl = 0
or u = 2gl
So we see that if velocity at lowest position should be equal to 2gl such that the string becomes slack at the horizontal diameter...
 
 
 
 
 
And see HCV-1 page 128 , example 8 where you will find that the velocity at lowest position  such that the bob complets a full circle is 5gl .
 
 
 
So we conclude that....
if velocity is less than 2gl, then string becomes slack below the horizontal diameter.
if velocity = 2gl, then string becomes slack at horizontal diameter..
if velocity is greater than 2gl but less than 5gl, then string becomes slack in the region between the horizontal diameter and the topmost position....

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