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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 9 Mar 2007 10:29:57 IST
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A prticle of mass m is moving along a semi-circular path of radius R in a garvity-free space, the particle moves under the influence of a variable force acting on the particle and always directed towards point B . If the speed of the particle is V(tangential to the sem-circular path), then find the speed of particle at position P
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 9 Mar 2007 14:36:55 IST
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Hey, magicklo. I have found the answer to be V/2. If it is correct plz notify me, and then I will post the solution by this evening.
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 9 Mar 2007 15:10:53 IST
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hey,how u solved it
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 9 Mar 2007 15:23:58 IST
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since its a consevative force so we can define a potential for it. and the final kinetic energy is calculated using increase in P E work done by normal rxn =0.
but i doubt the ans of prakritesh may b wrong as we dont have been given any other thing.
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 10 Mar 2007 12:15:41 IST
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Hey magicklo, last time I did a mistake and the correct answer is 4V according to me.this is a nice problem and thanks for posting it. The tip to solve it that one should not get stuck with the word 'variable force'. Even if the force is variable yet it must provide the necessary centripetal force mw2r in the radial direction otherwise the particle won't execute circular motion. Now, let us first derive the general method for solving the problem for any angle. (diagram below) At a particular instant angle POA =  . So, angle BPO =  /2. So, if F be the value of the force at that instant then resolve it in radial and tangential direction. Thus, F cos  /2 = mw 2r So, tangential comp. F sin  /2 = mw 2r tan  /2 So, tangential acceleration a t =w 2r tan  /2 So, angular acceleration  =w 2 tan  /2 Note that here the angular acceleration will not remain constant as w and  are not constant. This situation can be compared to (but not same as) the varying acceleration of S.H.M. Now,  = w 2 tan  /2 So, dw/dt = w 2tan  /2 w dw/d  = w 2tan  /2 dw/d  = w tan  /2 So, 1/w dw = tan  /2 d  Integrating Now let w at A be w a and at P be w p. In this problem  at A = 0degree and  at P = 120 degree. So, [ wa] [wp ] 1/w dw = [0 ] [120 ] tan  /2 d  Or, log w p - log w a = [ (log sec  /2)/(1/2)] 0120 or, log wp/wa = 2 log (sec60/sec0) or, log wp/wa = log (sec60/sec0)2 So, taking antilog wp/wa = (sec60/sec0)2 = (2/1)2 = 4 So, wp = 4wa rwp = 4 rwa Vp = 4 V This is the answer.
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 11 Mar 2007 17:39:02 IST
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the answer is 4v, but dnt u think, its quite a long solutiob for an objective question.....!!
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 11 Mar 2007 17:43:02 IST
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i think the answer appears long due to the theory he has written and magicklo sorry if i m interfering, please have a look at ur nudge book, pleasssse !!
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 12 Mar 2007 14:45:05 IST
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Ya magicklo, I had given a detailed answer so that everyone could understand without difficulty. But next time you face this type of problem for any angle, you can directly use the formula log wp/wa = 2 log (sec p/sec a).
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