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in the figure shown the plank is pulled to right with constant speed v.if the cylinder doesnot sip then.
angular velocity of cylinder is v/R???
T/F??
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is it v/2R?

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Should be false

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Arey,
Why should it be "V/2R"

There is no Relative slipping between Cylinder and Block.
So the velocity will not change.

V = R
Therefore,
= V/R.
Hence it is true.

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I was wondering about that... But what I did was, here the velocity of the point of contact is v, so velocity of center of mass will be v/2.

So, w = Vcm/R = V/2R...

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Hmm, I think you are right waterdemon. I think I made a grave mistake

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i think it is false
 
see for the cylinder to not slip on the plank the velocity of the bottommost point must be v in the right direction so that there is no relative vel. between the plank & cylinder.
 
also due to constraint relation velocity of centre of mass of cylinder is v towards left
 
so taking right direction as positive
 
-v + rw = v
=> w = 2v/r
 
 

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d answer 4 dis is v/r
bcoz 4 no slipping
there will b no relative motion 4 bw d point in contact wid d block and d block
hence d velocit of d point of contact will b v
 
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Yes priyesh is right. I forgot to take the sign conventions properly

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hey
it is true i have got it....
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how u have taken
-v + rw = v
=> w = 2v/r???
here -v in lhs is taken as the velocity of centre of mass....


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see my soln....
since the rope passes above the cylinder ,hence the velocit of point at the circumference due to rotation will be
v,same as velocity of rope....
and for rotation
v=rw
=>w = v/r..
pls correct if i am wrong.....

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See dude, its the sign convention. The CM moves to the left, but the bottommost point moves to the right.

The mistake I made was I simply wrote v+rw =v'

you have to assume one direction as positive and vice versa

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hey how u have got the velocity of centre of mass as v, towards left?????

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w=v/r . Same as waterdemons reply. Its right
 
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