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A uniform disc of radius R is placed on a rough horizontal surface and given a linear horizontal velocity v0 and angular velocity 0 as shown.The disc comes to rest after moving through some distance to right,it follows that:


a) v0=w0R


b)2v0=w0R


c)2v0=3w0R


d)3v0=2w0R


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even i have this doubt.How do you do this? some one please reply!

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I think the ans is (b)2v0=w0R.Let us denote angular acc. by k and coeff. of friction by p.


Let it come to rest after time t,then w0=kt and v0=pgt.


Using torque eqn.,f.R=I.k=(1/2)mR2kpmg=mRk/2k=2pg/R.


Substituting this,Rw0=2pgt=2v0.


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ok thanks...


but how would you solve this sum using energy conservation?


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srry But I dont agree with u frnd-"Energy conservation is not applicable in presence of dissipiative forces-here its friction"


bt Angular momentum abt the bottomost pt is conserved:bcoz torque of mg,N,frictn is zero(they all pass thr the contact pt)


Initial angular momentum=Iw-mvoR=3/2mR2wo-mvoR


Final angular momentum=0(as the disc stops)


equating the two  we get


2v0=3w0(c) Ans


 


 

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ok but i had asked this ques to my sir and he told me to use energy conservation even i had thouught that because friction is acting energy wont be conserved but im very confused.


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SE I CAN SOLVE IT BY ENERGY METHOD
WORK DONE BY EXTERNAL FORCE =CHANGE IN MECHANICHAL ENERGY
FINAL ENERGY=0
INITIAL KINETIC ENRGY
=1/2MV^2+I/2IW^2
CHANGE=1/2MV^2+I/2IW^2
UMGS=1/2MV^2+I/2IW^2FROM THIS WE CAN FIND OUT THE DISTANCE TRAVELLED CAN BE FOUND OUT
FROM THIS U CAN EQUATE THE VELOCITIES
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yes the energy can be conserved as in pure rolling the wok done by friction is zero provide it should perform pure rolling and as the surface is rough i think it would do pure rolling and so the ans can be found by energy conservation.


correct me if i m wrong.

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yeah but over here the body is not pure rolling..


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how can u tell that it is not purely rolling


plz explain`


 

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@animal


its no where given that frictn is sufficient to prevent slipping //the disc is performing pure rolling

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yes @akku i got it now it can be solved by ang momentum conservation abt the lowest pt as u havehave done


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