sign up I login
 advanced
refer a friend - earn nickels!!

Ask & Discuss Questions with Community & Experts

Moderation Team
 90 chars left    advanced
Ask iit jee aieee pet cbse icse state board experts Expert Question: Solve this problem....
Forum Index -> Mechanics like the article? email it to a friend.  
Author Message
maverick83 (36)

Hot goIITian

Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer. 2  [15 rates]

maverick83's Avatar

total posts: 149    
offline Offline
let A bomb of mass m is thrown vertically in the air ... it explodes into two equal parts when its velocity is 21m/sec. If one part moves upto the height of 40m from the pt. of explosion then what is the position of second part fom pt. of explosion.
    
netkid07 (2009)

Blazing goIITian

Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer. 359  bad job dude!! I dont approve of this answer! 2  [470 rates]

netkid07's Avatar

total posts: 696    
offline Offline
momentum before explosion and momentum after explosion must be same bcoz no external force is acting on the system...
 
Intial velocity of first part can be found by:
 
v^2 - u^2 =2as
 
where v=0
a=10
s=40
therefore,
 
u=20root2
applying law of conservation of linear momentum
let x be the velocity of second part
M21=m20root2 + mx
as
M=2m
therefore the equation becomes
42=20root2 + x
x=42 - 20root2=11.72
now,u know the velocity of second part
so position can be found by applying same formula
u get s= -9.76
minus sign here means that other part is going downwards
 
rate my efforts if you find them useful
 
 
 

Who says nothing is impossible.

I've been doing nothing for years !!..............


I know KUNG FU KARATE
and 47 other dangerous words.............

 this reply: 10 points  (with Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer.   in 2 votes )   [?]
 
You have to be logged on to rate
  
maverick83 (36)

Hot goIITian

Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer. 2  [15 rates]

maverick83's Avatar

total posts: 149    
offline Offline
numericaly your ans is correct but i think that it should be with positive sign...
 this reply: 0 points  (with Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer.   in 0 votes )   [?]
 
You have to be logged on to rate
  
netkid07 (2009)

Blazing goIITian

Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer. 359  bad job dude!! I dont approve of this answer! 2  [470 rates]

netkid07's Avatar

total posts: 696    
offline Offline
sorry that was a mistake
you are right
the answer is with positive sign

Who says nothing is impossible.

I've been doing nothing for years !!..............


I know KUNG FU KARATE
and 47 other dangerous words.............

 this reply: 2 points  (with Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer.   in 1 votes )   [?]
 
You have to be logged on to rate
  
elessar_iitkgp (2259)

Forum Expert Blazing goIITian

Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer. 387  [549 rates]

elessar_iitkgp's Avatar

total posts: 1655    
offline Offline
Good work maverick



 this reply: 5 points  (with Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer.   in 1 votes )   [?]
 
You have to be logged on to rate
  
joyfrancis (1504)

Blazing goIITian

Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer. 236  [398 rates]

joyfrancis's Avatar

total posts: 1801    
offline Offline
After the explosion , the part of the mass which moves up to a height of 40m needn't go directly upwards. It can also take a parabolic path and reach a maximum height of 40m from the point of explosion. The question is incomplete in itself, it should be mentioned that the part of the bomb goes DIRECTLY upwards.P.S this can also be solved in much less time using conservation of momentum. If the time of explosion is infinetely small then dp becomes almost zero and hence momentum is conserved just befor and after the collision.

There is no better feeling in this world than being a winner!
 this reply: 2 points  (with Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer.   in 1 votes )   [?]
 
You have to be logged on to rate
  
maha_hell3 (7)

New kid on the Block

Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer. 1  [2 rates]

maha_hell3's Avatar

total posts: 16    
offline Offline
momentum before collision=momentum aftr collisison.
 
 this reply: 2 points  (with Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer.   in 1 votes )   [?]
 
You have to be logged on to rate
  
devesh_l2k007 (107)

Scorching goIITian

Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer. 19  [25 rates]

devesh_l2k007's Avatar

total posts: 231    
offline Offline
mv= m/2v1 + m/2v2
v1=root(2g40)
on solving get v2
put v2sq=2gh
to get h

devesh

La parada de tettas
 this reply: 5 points  (with Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer.   in 1 votes )   [?]
 
You have to be logged on to rate
  
maverick83 (36)

Hot goIITian

Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer. 2  [15 rates]

maverick83's Avatar

total posts: 149    
offline Offline
thanx everbody you all are right i will RATE YOU ALL
 this reply: 0 points  (with Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer.   in 0 votes )   [?]
 
You have to be logged on to rate
  
elessar_iitkgp (2259)

Forum Expert Blazing goIITian

Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer. 387  [549 rates]

elessar_iitkgp's Avatar

total posts: 1655    
offline Offline
I would like to add a few things
System: The particle
The only external force acting on the system before and after the explosion are the gravitational forces. Now, assuming the time taken for the explosion to be small, the impulse generated by these gravitational forces is negligible. Hence linear momentum can be assumed to be constant in the vertical and horizontal directions.
In the horizontal direction,
0 = (m/2)v1x + (m/2)v2x
v1x = -v2x-----------(1)
As there is no acceleration along the X axis, the pieces move equal distances from the point of explosion, in equal time intervals along the X axis.

In the vertical direction,
mv0 = (m/2)v1y + (m/2)v2y
2v0 = v1y + v2y -----------(2)

Also,
v1y2/2g = h1
v1y = 2gh1 ---------(3)

From (2) and (3)
v2y  = 2v0 - 2gh1

Height to which the second piece rises
h2 = v2y2/2g
h2 = (2v0 - 2gh1)2/2g

This is the height to which the second piece rises, and horizontally, it is at the same distance from the projection point as the first piece. This completely determines the position of the first piece.

Substitute
v0 = 21 m/s
h1 = 40 m
to get the numerical answer.



 this reply: 0 points  (with Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer.   in 0 votes )   [?]
 
You have to be logged on to rate
  
maverick83 (36)

Hot goIITian

Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer. 2  [15 rates]

maverick83's Avatar

total posts: 149    
offline Offline
Good explanation elessar...........
 this reply: 0 points  (with Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer.   in 0 votes )   [?]
 
You have to be logged on to rate
  
 
Forum Index -> Mechanics
Go to:   

Top Offers for goIITians
Correspondence Courses
Brilliant Tutorials
Narayana Institute
Aakash Institute
Classroom/Crash Courses
Narayana - Kota , Delhi , Others
Brilliant Tutorials - Class , Crash
Aakash Institute - Medical , Engg
Online Test Series
Brilliant Tutorials
Narayana Institute
Aakash Institute
Mahesh Tutorials
AMITY      Sri Chaitanya