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a thin uniform rod of mass m and length l rotates with constant angular velocity omega about the vertical axis passing through the rod's suspension point O. In doing so the rod describes a conical surface with half aperture angle 'theta'.
what is the component of reaction force at O in x direction?
and magnitude of angular momentum of rod about axis of rotation ?
 
ans;
1. ml2 / 2
2. ml2 / 12


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24 Mar 2008 01:30:00 IST
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If the radius of the circle at the bottom u have drawn is also l, then d ans is rt.
if so,
Centre of mass of rod rotates in a circle of radius l/2.
Force for this can be provided only by the horizontal component of hinge force.
m2l/2 is the centripetal force, n this is equal to horizontal component of hinge force.

I dont think magnitude of angular momentum is ml2/12.

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24 Mar 2008 02:17:10 IST
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elastiboysai if it rotates with a radius of l then it won't become a conical pendulum
 as far as ans are concerned i think they are wrong
2) calculating MOI alon O ml^2/12  ml^2/4
                            
                                       =ml^2/ 3
 
I  =ml^2/3
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24 Mar 2008 02:20:32 IST
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well balganesh
I is not ml^2 / 3

if u notice the axis is passing through the end but is not perpendicular to it

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24 Mar 2008 10:50:42 IST
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yes balganesh..the answer by u isnt correct...
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24 Mar 2008 11:44:38 IST
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let da force thru da rod b T ............
 
da radius of the circle described by da rod at da bottom wud b = l sin theta

T sin= ml sin

T cos = mg
 
 T = m l

dis wud b da reaction force exerted at o
its component in x direction ml sin.

2)
         moi = ml2 /3 sin

angular momentum = ml2 /3 sin
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24 Mar 2008 20:28:55 IST
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@ anki016-
Are you sure components of the moment of inertia can be taken?
Can u plz validate ur point through some theorem probably??
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sid anki has merely said the radius of circle described=lsin
its not I
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24 Mar 2008 20:35:20 IST
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No elasti, not the radius, I'm talking about the second part

MoI = ml2/3sin@

that one......



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