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h.c.verma question...part one page 50 question no. 13


here is my solution...


first name one pulley as A and other as B

and let midpoint is C

now in triangle OAC....where O is a point at m.......

l^2=y^2+a^2

where l is length of string from A to O

and Y is oc

A is AC

now differentiate w.r.t. t

u get 2ldl/dt =2ydy/dt+0

dy/dt = dl/dt *l/y =(dl/dt)/(y/l)

now suppose dl/dt = u

and y/l = cos(theta)....from fig....

now dy/dt=u/cos(theta)

i.e. upward speed of mass m is u/cos(theta)

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i want to know as mass is pulling upwards..from both sides so the vel. should be...2u/cos(theta) ,,,but i got u/cos(theta)....from constraint law....

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hey man ur answer is correct check d answer properly

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i know my answer is correct but a little doubt is there in my mind that maas is going upwards..and the length of string is decreasing from both sides so it should be 2u/cos(theta),,,

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The two ends from the pulley start descending with "U"



 



velocity. 



Now since the angle between the string and the block is 



Angle @ 



Now see the length l of string decreases at the rate of 



U m/s. 

L2 = b2 + y2




2L dL/dT = 0 + 2y dy/dt 



differentiation of b2 = 0 as it remains constant. 



now we get  



dy/dt = l(dL)/ y(dt)  



dy/dt = 1/Cos@(dL/dt



 



dy/dt = U/Cos@



 



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man i know it ....but a little doubt is there in my mind.....why the answer is u/cos@ not 2u/cos@....as mass is pulling by both sides ,,,,so it should be 2u/cos@

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U APPLY TRIGO
SUPPOSE THE VELOCITY OF THE BLOCK IS V
AND OF THE STRING U
VCOS@=U
V=U/COS@
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ok i will give a simple example say u r sitting in a cart now a cow tied to the cart is moving with vel u so you will also move with vel.u
now 2cows are pulling u with vel u now tell me will u move with 2u?????? tell me......is it clear.
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ok ok ok thanks....ryuamakusa....if i m not wrong then in constraint law it is not compulsory.....

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