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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 18 May 2008 11:15:15 IST
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h.c.verma question...part one page 50 question no. 13
here is my solution...
first name one pulley as A and other as B
and let midpoint is C
now in triangle OAC....where O is a point at m.......
l^2=y^2+a^2
where l is length of string from A to O
and Y is oc
A is AC
now differentiate w.r.t. t
u get 2ldl/dt =2ydy/dt+0
dy/dt = dl/dt *l/y =(dl/dt)/(y/l)
now suppose dl/dt = u
and y/l = cos(theta)....from fig....
now dy/dt=u/cos(theta)
i.e. upward speed of mass m is u/cos(theta)
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i want to know as mass is pulling upwards..from both sides so the vel. should be...2u/cos(theta) ,,,but i got u/cos(theta)....from constraint law....
plzzzzz help;;;;;
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 18 May 2008 12:02:43 IST
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plz fast fast
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 18 May 2008 16:22:00 IST
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hey man ur answer is correct check d answer properly
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 18 May 2008 16:54:58 IST
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i know my answer is correct but a little doubt is there in my mind that maas is going upwards..and the length of string is decreasing from both sides so it should be 2u/cos(theta),,,
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 18 May 2008 19:01:41 IST
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UR RIGHT APPLY TRIGNOMETRY HERE AND U WILL UNDERSTAND IT
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 18 May 2008 19:29:46 IST
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The two ends from the pulley start descending with "U"
velocity.
Now since the angle between the string and the block is
Angle @
Now see the length l of string decreases at the rate of
U m/s.
L2 = b2 + y2
2L dL/dT = 0 + 2y dy/dt
differentiation of b2 = 0 as it remains constant.
now we get
dy/dt = l(dL)/ y(dt)
dy/dt = U/Cos@
( Thanks to waterdemon )
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 18 May 2008 19:33:46 IST
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Re:very very urgent...rates assured
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 18 May 2008 19:49:01 IST
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man i know it ....but a little doubt is there in my mind.....why the answer is u/cos@ not 2u/cos@....as mass is pulling by both sides ,,,,so it should be 2u/cos@
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 18 May 2008 20:11:04 IST
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U APPLY TRIGO SUPPOSE THE VELOCITY OF THE BLOCK IS V AND OF THE STRING U VCOS@=U V=U/COS@ SIMPLE NO DIFFRENTIATION NO CALCULUS
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ok i will give a simple example say u r sitting in a cart now a cow tied to the cart is moving with vel u so you will also move with vel.u now 2cows are pulling u with vel u now tell me will u move with 2u?????? tell me......is it clear.
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 18 May 2008 20:17:47 IST
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ok ok ok thanks....ryuamakusa....if i m not wrong then in constraint law it is not compulsory.....
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