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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 28 Jan 2008 12:14:42 IST
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A heavy stone is thrown from a cliff of height h with a speed v. The stone will hit the ground with maximum speed if it is thrown (a) vertically downwards (b) vertically upwards (c) horizontally (d) the speed does not depend on the initial direction PLEASE EXPLAIN 
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 28 Jan 2008 12:57:04 IST
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vertically downward
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 28 Jan 2008 13:00:50 IST
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final velocity is V V2=v(sin A) 2+2gh, whre A is angle with horizontal now if V is to be maximum sin A is max and at -pi/2
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d)is the correct option Applying work energy theorem since no friction,pseudo or external force is applied the total mechanical energy remains conserved so taking cliff as 0 potential 1/2 m(v1)^2=1/2m(mv2)^2-mgh(v='SPEED' of body at 2 pts) using kinematics also u get the same result whether thrown up,down or horizontal
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 29 Jan 2008 00:26:50 IST
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arey bhai simple vector addition...ans. both a and b would give the same answer[if air resistance is neglected] if it is thrown horizontally, the horizontal component of velocity remains constant and the vertical component is derived from free fall that is equal to "gt" [v=u +at] vector addition gives something lesser than v + gt which can be got only by adding them along a straight line.
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 29 Jan 2008 18:40:13 IST
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throw it any way ....if you conserve the mechanical energy you will see that the speed at bottom is always the same
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 29 Jan 2008 18:48:48 IST
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mgh = 1/2 mv^2 so if u neglect air resistance, it will hit with same speed in all cases.
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 29 Jan 2008 20:22:26 IST
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ya there is a confusion that 1st and 2nd options are right but not the 3rd ; but actually final velocity is same in all the cases coz when u throw horizontally there is a horizontal component present , so the vector sum of both horizontal and vertical components give the same magnitude as that of 1st and 2nd, nudge if wrong
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 29 Jan 2008 20:34:13 IST
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let it b thrown at  with v comp in hor is vcos and vertical is vsin vcos will not get affected as no chang in hor vel in vertical vel becomes root of(v 2sin 2 +2gh) at bottom vel is root of vx2 + vy2 root of (v^2(sin^2 + cos^2) + 2gh) which is root of (v^2 + 2gh) which is indep of the angle of throwing so for all angles same vel at bottom
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 29 Jan 2008 21:39:41 IST
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let E be energy transferred to stone when is thrown case 1) when it is thrown upwards stone uses its E against gravity when this E =0 stone reaches max height n starts coming downward such that its K.E increases n it becomes E when total displacement is 0 {at height h} more over it starts to move downward such that it K.E increases by X hence total K.E energy is E+X we get velocity from this case 2) when it is thrown vertically downwards its k.e increases by x as in above case hence total ke is E+x case 3) when it is thrown horizontally from height h{since perpendicular distance is still h} k.e. still increses by x hence its k.e is E+x
hence in short by law of conservation of energy its D
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