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HCV QUESTION
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a proton and an electron are accelerateed by same potential differnce  . Let l nd p denote the de Brogli wavelength of the electron and the proton respectivly

a) l = p

b)  l < p

c) l > p

 d) the relation depends on accelerating pot. deifference.


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5 Feb 2012 13:45:22 IST
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i think I=p

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5 Feb 2012 15:35:36 IST
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even i thought so .......... but the ans is : l
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the ans is -- l < p u may refer to hcv part2 , pg - 364
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5 Feb 2012 15:37:01 IST
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the ans -- l>p

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5 Feb 2012 17:07:06 IST
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As thy r acclratd at same p0tential,th energy 'qV' is equal,by th formula of de-brogli wavelngth,their mas wil decide th wavlngth,th one with greater mas wil hav smalr wavlngth,as lambda is inversly relatd to sq.ro0t of mas. . .i thnk mas of prot0n is greater,so it wil hav smal wavlngth

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5 Feb 2012 18:33:31 IST
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srivastava is the velocity same for both? if it is same then lamda inversly related to sq.root of mass .

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yes    w=qv is same for both .  so the net gain in K.Eof both is also same.

w=qv=1/2m1v12                 1 for electron

w=qv=1/2m2v22                   2 for proton

from above m1 / m2=(v2 / v2)2....................................A

the de Brogli eqn for e  is I=h  /  m1v1.....................  1

the de Brogli eqn for proton    p=h/m2v2 ................... 2

 from 1 and 2

                I/p=m2v2 / m1v1................................B

from eqn A   v2 / v1=(m1 / m2 )1/2....................................C

putting C in B

                           I/p=(m2  / m1)1/2

                         as m>m1

                               I>p


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5 Feb 2012 19:03:29 IST
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Vel0city wil n0t b same,as energies(qV gives kinetic energy)are same,bt mass diffrs,so vel0city wil n0t b same. . .cn u telme whch formula are u usin?its n0t velocity but kinetic energy in that f0rmula,as i remembr. . .
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5 Feb 2012 21:44:26 IST
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l &p inversely proportional to Me & Mp.Mep
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5 Feb 2012 21:49:03 IST
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l&p are inversely proprtional to square roots of mass but the ans. is not affected
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5 Feb 2012 21:50:53 IST
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ans will be c.
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velocities will not be same

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6 Feb 2012 15:03:05 IST
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wave length = h / ( 2mE )^ 1/2 where E = qV is same



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