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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 8 Jan 2008 14:33:15 IST
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the correct order of basicity of following compounds is(plz xplain d ansr, all opitons): 1. CH3-C-NH2 || N(+)H2 2.CH3CH2NH2 3.(CH3)2NH 4.CH3CONH2 1. 2>1>3>4 2.1>3>2>4 3.3>1>2>4 4.1>2>3>4 the ansr is 2>1>3>4 as postd in d ansr sheet.... sry 4 nt posting d options earlier...
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Wat's the meaning of (+) in first option?
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 8 Jan 2008 14:42:15 IST
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(+) charge on N....
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 8 Jan 2008 14:42:36 IST
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There is some problem in the order given by U. 4 is least basic for sure but how can 3 be less basic than 2? 3 is definitely more basic than 2.
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 8 Jan 2008 14:43:20 IST
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Arre N pe + kahan se aa gaya? N ki teeno valencies complete hain. The + charge must be on C.
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 8 Jan 2008 15:08:01 IST
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i dunno...N ki 4 valency hai...chck again and tl d ordr according to ya... cz tis a quesn of by booklt...so ans cn also be wrong...
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 8 Jan 2008 15:12:33 IST
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I am getting 1>3>2>4.
Let others also reply so that we can confirm the ans. If my ans is found to be correct, I will post the explanation.
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 8 Jan 2008 15:15:18 IST
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post it rite nw......if ur xplanation is crct dn ur ansr also shud be crct....cmon odrs try it....
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 8 Jan 2008 15:17:30 IST
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the ans 2134 is corect acc to me but i think there should not be any + charge on n
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 8 Jan 2008 15:19:59 IST
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ya bro ur crct... giv ur xplanation.... and dere is +chrge on N..widout it N cn't have 4 valency...
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 8 Jan 2008 15:22:17 IST
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Wait, I think the answer shud be 3>2>4>1.
See 4 is least among 2,3 basic due to electron withdrawing effect of C=O both by resonance as well as by inductive. Now 3>2>4 due to more electron pushing inductive effect of 2 CH3 groups in 3.
Now in 1, u can see that if u do resonance between double bond of one N and lone pair of other N, U get 2 idenctical resonance structures. it means the given compound is very stable. But U can't put one more H+ on the already +ve N and if U put the H+ on the other N, the compound will become highly unstable due to 2 +ve charges. Hence it cannot accept H+ and hence is least basic EDITED THE LAST REASON. HAD POSTED THE WRONG REASON EARLIER.
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 8 Jan 2008 15:23:10 IST
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dutta1, can U please explain how did u get 2134?
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 8 Jan 2008 15:24:38 IST
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4 n is with c=o there by resonance no e on N so least basic 3 1 e donating gp 1 + charge attaract double bounded e 2 3 e donating gp attached
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 8 Jan 2008 15:25:27 IST
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sorry for late reply i was also looking something else...
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 8 Jan 2008 15:29:32 IST
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