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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 25 Feb 2008 17:05:21 IST
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which has a greater dipole moment CH2Cl2 or CHCl3 n why?????????
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 25 Feb 2008 17:10:18 IST
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CHCl3 cos there there is more polarity in C-Cl than in C-H bond
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 25 Feb 2008 17:10:44 IST
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CHCl3 That is because, this molecule will have a tetrahedral structure (see it in you mind) Then, Chlorine, being more electronegative than Carbon, will pull electron toward itself. Now tell me, which would cause more pulling, 2 cl atoms or 3 cl atoms?
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That's the answer.
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 25 Feb 2008 17:15:13 IST
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but according to me CH2Cl2 should hav greater dipole moment.. dipole moment is a vector quantity ...... so, in CHCl3 due to tetrahedral arrangement 3 C-Cl dipoles will result in less dipole moment as compared to CH2Cl2....... infact , CH3Cl is having max. dipole moment among chloromethanes.........
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 25 Feb 2008 17:25:44 IST
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in the ist dia chci3 is shown. cl cl cancel each other. but on the otherside h-cl dipole moment exists in 2nd dia there is no dipole moment...............since h-h and cl-cl cancel each other there is 1 more structure possible in 3rd dia dipole moment exists ch2cl2 will hav greater dipole moment
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 25 Feb 2008 17:25:55 IST
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Why so?
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 25 Feb 2008 17:27:13 IST
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its chcl3 bcas the chlorine atom is more electro negative than hydrogen
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 25 Feb 2008 17:29:52 IST
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xplained in previous post............
and same question has been asked in jee few years back........
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 25 Feb 2008 17:33:28 IST
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can u pls explain how 3 cl atoms will cause less dipole moment and as above sti is wrong in telling that the molecule shows geometric isomerism
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 25 Feb 2008 17:43:56 IST
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u can imagine the situation like this........
u know that CCl4 is having zero dipole moment..........
suppose if we remove a C-Cl dipole from the structure
then remaining 3 C-Cl dipoles will behave as single C-Cl dipole
whose polarity is opposite to that of single C-Cl dipole which we have removed........
hence d.m of CCl3 < CHCl2
note: in the whole xplaination I have neglected the d.m of C-H bonds 4 clear understanding and if it is taken into account it will not cause any change in result ............
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 25 Feb 2008 17:51:31 IST
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THANKS YA I GOT IT NOW
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 25 Feb 2008 18:47:22 IST
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CH2Cl2 is more polar coz its a vector qty...three Cl cancel the effect of each other
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 25 Feb 2008 19:11:18 IST
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Its CH2Cl2 coz the bond dipole of third C-Cl bond in CHCl3 reduces the net bond dipole due to the other two C-Cl bonds...........
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 26 Feb 2008 20:27:48 IST
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here is the perfect solution
CHCl3 have more dipole moment. in CHCl3 have two equivalent bond C-Cl which
cancel each other but one C-H bond is not cancelled with C-Cl . so dipole moment
is there. but in CHCl2 there is two equivalent bond C-Cl as well as two equivalent
bond C-H . so cancel each other so almost zero dipole moment
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 26 Feb 2008 20:42:58 IST
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