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which has a greater dipole moment CH2Cl2 or CHCl3 n why?????????


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CHCl3 cos there there is more polarity in C-Cl than in C-H bond

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CHCl3
That is because, this molecule will have a tetrahedral structure (see it in you mind)
Then, Chlorine, being more electronegative than Carbon, will pull electron toward itself.
Now tell me, which would cause more pulling, 2 cl atoms or 3 cl atoms?

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That's the answer.
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but according to me CH2Cl2 should hav greater dipole moment..
 
dipole moment is a vector quantity ......
 
so, in CHCl3 due to tetrahedral arrangement 3 C-Cl dipoles will result in less dipole moment as compared to CH2Cl2.......
 
infact , CH3Cl is having max. dipole moment among chloromethanes.........
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in the ist dia chci3 is shown. cl cl cancel each other. but on the otherside h-cl dipole moment exists
in 2nd dia there is no dipole moment...............since h-h and cl-cl cancel each other
there is 1 more structure possible
in 3rd dia dipole moment exists
ch2cl2 will hav greater dipole moment

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Why so?
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25 Feb 2008 17:27:13 IST
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its chcl3 bcas the chlorine atom is more electro negative than hydrogen
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xplained in previous post............

and same question has been asked in jee few years back........
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can u pls explain how 3 cl atoms will cause less dipole moment and as above sti is wrong in telling that the molecule shows geometric isomerism
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u can imagine the situation like this........


u know that CCl4 is having zero dipole moment..........

suppose if we remove a C-Cl dipole from the structure

then remaining 3 C-Cl dipoles will behave as single C-Cl dipole

whose polarity is opposite to that of single C-Cl dipole which we have removed........

hence d.m of CCl3 < CHCl2

note: in the whole xplaination I have neglected the d.m of C-H bonds
4 clear understanding and if it is taken into account it will not cause any change in result ............
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THANKS YA I GOT IT NOW
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CH2Cl2 is more polar coz its a vector qty...three Cl cancel the effect of each other
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25 Feb 2008 19:11:18 IST
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Its CH2Cl2 coz the bond dipole of third C-Cl bond in CHCl3 reduces the net bond dipole due to the other two C-Cl bonds...........
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here is the perfect solution

CHCl3 have more dipole moment. in CHCl3 have two equivalent bond C-Cl which

cancel each other but one C-H bond is not cancelled with C-Cl . so dipole moment

is there. but in CHCl2 there is two equivalent bond C-Cl as well as two equivalent

bond C-H . so cancel each other so almost zero dipole moment
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CH2Cl2 has more dipole moment than CHCl3!!!!!



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