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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 19 Oct 2007 22:54:28 IST
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Please help me by explaining exactly what ortho effect is and how it affects basicity/acidity
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 19 Oct 2007 23:26:51 IST
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if any group present on ortho position of benzoic acid it always increases acidic nature of acid because this group decreases outer resonance of ring towards acid which increases acidic nature for example orthonitrobenzoic acid is most acidic in any nitro derivative of benzoic acid.orthomethyl benzoic acid is maximum acidic than other isomers.similarly if any group present on ortho position of aniline it decreases basic nature.
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Arun / Rashi - Authors Macromind MCQ of Chemistry from G.R Batla |
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to reduce the steric strain.......the group goes out of plane.......Thereby weakening resonance........therefore weakening acid wekeaning resonance........So it can easily be acidic This whole thing is steric effect
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 21 Oct 2007 13:54:10 IST
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i thought resonance decreased BASICITY..
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 21 Oct 2007 15:36:20 IST
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vichu is correct...it is the steric hinderance....ortho effect like in orthonitro benzoic acid is not dependent on the kind of substituents whether e-withdrawing or donating.......in case of ortho-nitro benzoic acid......due to steric strain between nitro grp and carboxylate ion....the carboxylate ion is forced out of plane and that shift alters the charge into the ring and so it becomes easier to delocalize the charge in the ring easily.and that increases the acidity.
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 23 Oct 2007 16:25:24 IST
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now this is confusing.. one says it strengthens resonance and one says it is weakened.. i am still confused
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 23 Oct 2007 22:46:27 IST
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vichu is perfect !!!!!!! steric hindrance is real cause !!!!!! steric inhibition of resonance prevents +r to come in operation and since this weakens acidic strength ,its absence results in increased acid strength !!!!!!!
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 23 Oct 2007 23:36:11 IST
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COOH is a bulky group. and any group at ortho position causes steric hinderence. due to this the planarity of COOH is lost. We know that for resonanace the molecules under consideration shod be planar. ther4 resonance is inhibited. U can easily see that Ph stabilises COOH by resonance.(in the canonical structures u can see that -ve charge comes on 1 O. think if H is released(rather H+) it brings -ve on he other O also. and it leads to a large repulsiv force(between 2 O-.) ther4 release of H+ is now prohibited BUT when, planarity is lost i.e resonance is stopped. ad now -ve not comes on any O. and elease of H is facilitated. I think now u ll hv no confusion..................
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 24 Oct 2007 14:48:29 IST
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Kudos Ashish Perfect ans!!!!!!
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 25 Oct 2007 14:36:37 IST
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thanks ashish...
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