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Q.z1,z2,z3 are in harmonic progression then z1,z2,z3 lie on
1.a straight line
2.an ellipse
3.a parabola
4.none.
    
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correct answer is A. STRAIGHT LINE.



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can i have the solution plzzz...
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I think they lie on a circle.

We have 1/z2 = 1/2(1/z1+1/z3)
Simplifying, we get

z1z2+z2z3 = 2z1z3

or (z2-z3)/(z1-z2) = z3/z1.

Thus, arg(z2-z3/z1-z2) = arg(z3/z1).

Lets plot the points geometrically.

Say z1 = A, z2 = B and z3 = C.

Now using the fact that 1/z2 = 1/2(1/z1+1/z3) you can prove that

1.either |z1|>=|z2|>=|z3| or |z1|<=|z2|<=|z3|.Using  |1/z2| = 1/2|1/z1+1/z3|. (Try to prove it).
2. z3 never lies between z1 and z2. Using argz2 = arg(z1)+arg(z3) - arg(z1+z3).
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1. z2 always lies between z1 and z3. Using argz2 = arg(z1)+arg(z3) - arg(z1+z3).
2. arg(z2-z3/z1-z2) = arg(z3/z1) excludes cases when OABC is not convex (both have the same sense, clockwise or anticlockwise. This tells us CB cannot 'tilt behind' AB.  
 
Hence, OABC forms a convex quadrilateral.

And from arg(z2-z3/z1-z2) = arg(z3/z1) we get that angle COB and angle CBA are supplementary. Hence, OABC is a cyclic quadrilateral

That is A,B, and C lie on a circle passing through origin.

Proving that OABC is a convex quadrilateral is a critical part of the proof.




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well the answer is given as ellipse
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AP = k BP
 
consider A, B to be fixed
 
P describes a circle .
 
So a circle .
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I also feel that its a circle.

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Consider the angles at the points z1 and z3 to be some x and y

Now you have by the euler's form e ix = -z1/z2 - z1 and e iy = z2 - z3/-z3

now multiply them and you have z1z2 - z1z3 = (z2z3 - z1z3)e i(x+y)

If the points lie on a circle then the quadrilateral formed

should be cyclic that is opposite angles should sum up to

180 degrees.

Then you have  x +  y =  180 degrees

So z1z2 - z1z3 = (z2z3 - z1z3)e i = (z2z3 - z1z3)*-1

Or z1z2 + z2z3 = 2z1z3

Divide both sides by z1z2z3 and you get the required

condition.

You thus get 1/z3 + 1/z1 = 2/z2

So z1,z2,z3 are in H.P..........



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Feynmann :I am a little rusty with my fundas but does the circle you describe pass thru A and B. I think not
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Yes u are right ( I was in a li'l bit of hurry ), but still my answer remains the same !!


Here we have


(z2-z1)/(z2 - z3 ) = -z1/z3


so we get


 arg(z2-z1)/(z2 - z3 ) = arg(-z1/z3)


Now as mentioned in my previous post consider z1 & z3 to be fixed


so it means that argument of LHS is constant .


which in turn means that z2 lies on a portion of the circle of which z1z3 is a chord  .


It may be a st. line only in a special case .

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hey man i think this problem can be done by taking z1=cos+isin and similarly z2 and z3.


tell me if i m correct..

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