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Contest [swordfish #1]: Find the eqn. of the medians of a triangle
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 ABC is a and the equation of the sides AB, BC, CA are
a1 x + b1 y + c1 = 0 .... (1)
a2 x + b2 y + c2 = 0 .... (2)
a3 x + b3 y + c3 = 0 .... (3)

Find the eqn. of the medians of the triangle, without solving for the vertices.


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it can be done using concept of family of straight lines

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first of all we write one equation by using family of straight lines !
then to find parameter say lambda we find out the equation of the angle bisector and then equate tan theta using Solutions of triangle and then calculate lambda !
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hiieeeee.dis is ankita.i tink the above prob can be done easily with the help of determinants.and more easier way is by using vector meth.:-
 

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Dear sir,
i want to solve this sum by your books . because of i read you are books and i found some thing new copmeare to other others .
                    please supoort me to solve this sum of matamatics.
                      
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It can be solved usin Straight lines
 

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vectors suggest no way...........it will be very lengthy by that method........easiest way is to find the equation using family of lines and then to find the parameter the best way is to see that all medians divide the triangle into two triangles of equal areas so let the first eqn be
a1 x + b1 y + c1 = (a2 x + b2 y + c2)
then this eqn and
 

a2 x + b2 y + c2 = 0 .... (2)
a3 x + b3 y + c3 = 0 .... (3)

should form a triangle whose area is half the area of the tiangle formed by

a1 x + b1 y + c1 = 0 .... (1)
a2 x + b2 y + c2 = 0 .... (2)
a3 x + b3 y + c3 = 0 .... (3)

which
gives the requied value of 


thats simple by using determinants method............similarly two other equations can be found out...................easy 2 step approach

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Let triangle be ABC
Let D1(h1,k1) be the point lying  on BC(a2x+b2y+c2=0) . The median bisecting this side let  be (y-k1)=m1(x-h1);
this median and the other 2 sides are concurrant hence

a1x + b1y + c1=0(if c1 is not zero)
this is similar to

(a1/c1)x + (b1/c1)y +1=0  ----------1----------
(a3/c3)x + (b3/c3)y +1=0  ----------2----------
m1(x-h1) - (y-k1)        =0 ----------3---------
1, 2, 3 are concurrant(they obviously meet at A)

hence the determinant of coefficients is zero(as there should be only one solution to this linear system of 3 equations)

therefore we get a relation in a1, b1, c1, a2, b2, c2, h1, k1, m1

m1= {  (k1(a2.b1-a1.b2)+(a2.c1-a1.c2)  } / {h1(a2.b1-a1.b2) + (c2.b1-c1.b2) }
so now by generalising h1.k1 to x,y we get the equation to the median cutting BC; also since the expression is symmetric; we can cyclically change               (a1, a2,a3) ; (b1,b2,b3) and (c1,c2,c3) to get m2 and m3 and hence the equations of the other 2 medians

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Kaushik, Bangalore
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swordfish #1 result I'm afraid, no student has been able to answer this question with the correct technique.

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this problem consists of four small steps:
1)finding the equation of AB
2)finding M(the intersection point of AB and  OP)
3)finding the mid point of PM
4)finding the equation of P'Q'
 every step is a short step.
in the first step, let A be (x,y) and C be centre of OP. AC=CP completes first step
infourth step, slope and a point are known.

answer comes out to be x(x1+g)+y(y1+f)=PA/2

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this problem consists of four small steps:
1)finding the equation of AB
2)finding M(the intersection point of AB and  OP)
3)finding the mid point of PM
4)finding the equation of P'Q'
 every step is a short step.
in the first step, let A be (x,y) and C be centre of OP. AC=CP completes first step
infourth step, slope and a point are known.

answer comes out to be x(x1+g)+y(y1+f)=PA/2

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Let triangle be ABC
Let D1(h1,k1) be the point lying  on BC(a2x+b2y+c2=0) . The median bisecting this side let  be (y-k1)=m1(x-h1);
this median and the other 2 sides are concurrant hence

a1x + b1y + c1=0(if c1 is not zero)
this is similar to

(a1/c1)x + (b1/c1)y +1=0  ----------1----------
(a3/c3)x + (b3/c3)y +1=0  ----------2----------
m1(x-h1) - (y-k1)        =0 ----------3---------
1, 2, 3 are concurrant(they obviously meet at A)

hence the determinant of coefficients is zero(as there should be only one solution to this linear system of 3 equations)

therefore we get a relation in a1, b1, c1, a2, b2, c2, h1, k1, m1

m1= {  (k1(a2.b1-a1.b2)+(a2.c1-a1.c2)  } / {h1(a2.b1-a1.b2) + (c2.b1-c1.b2) }
so now by generalising h1.k1 to x,y we get the equation to the median cutting BC; also since the expression is symmetric; we can cyclically change               (a1, a2,a3) ; (b1,b2,b3) and (c1,c2,c3) to get m2 and m3 and hence the equations of the other 2 medians

Thank you
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eqn of median thro B is given by  (1)+ k(2)=0
similarly the eqns of medians thro A and C can be given....
 
now, all the medians have a common soln (the centroid)
 
hence we have the determinant of coefficient matrix to be 0 (a homogenous system of eqns in x,y)
 
so, we can solve for k1, k2, k3... and hence the problem..
 
(Here, (1) => a1x+b1y+c1=0....)

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the ans is :1st option i could solve this but i cannot solve on the screen
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Solve this
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THE method involved is area of med.triangle  = 1/3 ar of triangle


Solve the det to get ans




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