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the minimum value of the expression sinA+sinB+sinC,where A,B,C are real positive angles satisfying A+B+C=180 is
a)positive
b)zero
c)negative
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it shud b positive.
sin A +sin B + sin C
= 4 cos A/2 cos B/2 cos C/2
nw,as A/2,B/2,C/2 r always acute,their cosines r always +ve....

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sinA+sinB+sinC = 1/2R (a+b+c)

now a+b+c is always positive.

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EDITED

Cut the chase,since angles are +ve they are all less than or equal to pi.So positive is the only answer satisfying.

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can any one try it with A.M>G.M.i tried but i am not getting it.
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ankit u have urself told the answer i think--


(sin A + sin B + sin C) / 3 >= [ 3  ] sin A sin B sin C

(sin A + sin B + sin C)  >= 3[ 3  ] sin A sin B sin C

now as A , B , C < = 180 hence

sin A , sin B , sin C is positive

thus
3[ 3  ] sin A sin B sin C is positive hence the answer is positive

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yes,sina+sinb+sinc/3>sin(a+b+c)/3
          hence!
           sina+sinb+sinc/3>sinpi/3
          sina+sin+sinc/3>root3/2
           hence,
           sina+sin+sinc>3root3/2
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Related only to the post above:
 
When a function is concave, it has the property that
 
f(w_1 x_1+w_2 x_2+w_3 x_3+...+w_n x_n) geq w_1f(x_1)+w_2f(x_2)+w_3f(x_3)+...+w_n f(x_n) \ \

	ext{where}  sum_{i=1}^n w_i = 1
 
and all wi are all positive
 
This is called Jensen's inequality. The inequality reverses if the function is convex.
 
In general, a function is concave if
 
f(w_1 x_1+w_2 x_2) geq w_1 f(x_1)+w_2 f(x_2)  	ext {where}  w_1+w_2 = 1
 
If the function is differentiable, this condition translated to 'f"(x)
 
This is satisfied by sinx in the interval [0, rac{pi}{2}]
 
	ext{Hence}  sin(rac{x_1+x_2+x_3}{3}) geq rac {sin(x_1)+sin(x_2)+sin(x_3)} {3}
 
 x_1+x_2+x_3 = pi \ \

	ext{Hence}  sin(x_1) + sin(x_2) + sin(x_3) leq 3  sin (rac{pi}{3}) = 3 rac{sqrt3}{2}
 
 
 
 
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ankur it says real positive angles

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agree havent read that .......
answer is positive ......sry for mistake edited above

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sir did u put up your answer to increase our knowledge or did u give an answer to the above asked question.

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the just previous post was trying to prove that the min was 3  rac{sqrt3}{2}
 
I wanted to prove that this is the max.
 
If you set A=B =d where d is a small +ve angle, then C = 180-2d
 
sinA+sinB+sinC = 2sind+sin2d. You can make d as small as you please and so the min is zero.
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