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if p satisfies p X a = b  and p.a=0 for non zero vectors a and b, then x is equal to :

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i dont understand ur question...........but i think this is wat u want.........
 
if p satisfies p X a = b  and p.a=0 for non zero vectors a and b, then x is equal to :
 
#p.a=0
 
For non -zero vectors ,from this condition implies that "p" and "a" are perpendicular...................................eq1
 
#p X a = b
 
For non-zero vectors ,by definition of cross product,"b" is perpendicular both to "p" and "a"......................................eq2
 
From eq1 and eq2 we can infer that vectors "p","a" and "b" are mutually perpendicular.
I think this is what u want.............if u want any other plz specify.

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oh sorry.... the question is: if p satisfies p X a = b  and p.a=0 for non zero vectors a and b, then p is equal to :

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Oh itz ok.........
 
SOLUTION:-
 
I think u know this..............
 
(p x a) 2 + ( p . a)2 = | p |2 + | a |2 
 
 
 
--------eq1---------if not ,try to prove it...if u can't get it i will post the proof for this relation also.
 
substituting the known values in eq1 we get.........
 
( b )2 +  ( 0 )2  = | p |2  + | a |2
 
| b | 2  
--------   =  | p |2
| a |2
 
Taking square root,we get
 
 | p |   = +_    | b |
                   -----------
                     | a |
 
Note :-
 
+_ is plus r minus

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thanks karthik, but we have to find the vector p and not just the magnitude..

also please post the proof of  (p x a) 2 + ( p . a)2 = | p |2 * | a |2
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PROOF:-
 
( p x a )2 + ( p . a )2
 
={ | p | | a | sin  ( n cap ) }2  + { | p | | a | cos  }2
 
=| p |2 | a |2sin2  ( 1 ) +  | p |2 | a |2 cos2  
 
=| p |2 | a |2  {sin2  + cos2   }
 
=| p |2 | a |2  {1 }
 
=| p |2 | a |2 
 
------------------------------
 
  p vector   = +_    | b |( b x a )
                           --------- -------
                            | a | |b x a |
 
since , b x a is in the direction of p vector.

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hey Karthik plssssssss tell me that how u got

p vector = +_ | b |( b x a )
--------- -------
| a | |b x a |

since , b x a is in the direction of p vector.?????????????

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u got that modulus of p vector....dont u?
 
p , b , a are mutually perpendicular.
 
by definition of cross product, in ( b x a) the resultant will be perpendicular both to  b and a.............the direction of p vector is also perpendicular both to b and a.
 
hence, p vector and ( b x a) are in the same direction.
 
magnitude of p vector is already found.
 
to show direction a unit vector in the direction of ( b x a) is taken.........i.e
 
( b x a )
---------------
| b x a |

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The above solution that i gav is correct........there is also another solution.....
 
here it is
 
p . a = o-----------------------eq1
 
This implies that "p" and "a" are perpendicular.
 
Also given
 
p x a = b
 
crossing both sides with  a vector we get
 
( p x a ) x a = b x a
 
( a . p ) a - ( a . a ) p = b x a
 
 ( 0 ) a - ( a )2 p = b x a  { from eq1 }
 
- ( a )2 p = - a x b
 
 ( a )2 p = a x b
 
p = a x b
    ----------
       a2

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If the magnintude of vector p is to be founded
 
 thye given information is pxa=b
 
                                 and pxa=0
          
                                        so the angle between p,a is 90
 
                                       So magnitude of pxa= /p/./a/=/b/
                                          
                                                                 So  /p/ =/b/ divided by/a/   
                                                                     

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