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Catalogs Discussion Forums -> Algebra -> nature of roots of an eqn -> Go to message
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finally today i got the time to reply here frnds

every bdy listen , i also read saame thing from hall and knight whatever u have read, but the fact is ur logic isnt clear , let me explain it..................................

Suppose A and B are two boolean expression and it is provable that
A => B ( A implies B) now  mathematics says that from here it cannot be proved that (~A) = > (~B) where ~X means not of statement X, the only thing that can be proved from here is

if ( A => B) then (~B => ~A) or writing mathematically (A=>B)=> (~B=>~A)
suppose the following statement for a polynomial f(x)
A = whether  polynomial function  has n equal root or not.
A = T if it has & A = F if it doesnt.
B = derivative of  Polynomial  has (n-1) equal roots  or not

from here A => B as  Hall and Knight suggest ( alright!!!)

~A = f(x) do not have n equal roots
~B = f``(x) do not  have (n-1) equal roots

and you people are trying to say that (~A) => (~B)
which mathematics say cannot hold only on the basis of A=> B.
So i think , its clear now.
i hope everyone must understood this now.
Catalogs Discussion Forums -> Inorganic Chemistry -> TRIGONOMETRY -> Go to message
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again yaar , solution is wrong to an extent , because u have canceled (1-s)
that means s= 1 , that is theta = (2pie*n + pie/2) is missing from ur answer
Catalogs Discussion Forums -> Algebra -> nature of roots of an eqn -> Go to message
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well akriti , what i can say i also cleared JEE few years ago, i never requires this , even at that  time paper was more tougher than now ............................neways this  can be solved by converting it to standard form of biquadratic equation.
Catalogs Discussion Forums -> Algebra -> nature of roots of an eqn -> Go to message
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and whosoever ask this question , please understand that this is not in the JEE syllabus ( biquadratic equation) , and if it will come then it will be some special case.

If u wanna know solution of this question i can write that here , but nothin will be happened by that , it willl be very good for u if u give ur time to topics which are in syllabus


Thnxs

Catalogs Discussion Forums -> Algebra -> nature of roots of an eqn -> Go to message
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rahul_c i told u several times taht u r giving wrong answers y dunt u understand this, please do not give wrong answer untill and unless u understand the concept carefully , ur concepts are wrong , please see this example

f(x) = (x-3)^2 + 4
this function has no solution but , f``(x) = 2(x-3) has real solution , i am telling u again , u only know answers , why &  how terms  are  immaterial to u, figure it out , otherwise u know very will what will happen
Catalogs Discussion Forums -> Trignometry -> integral values -> Go to message
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Upto the level i think , there shdnt be any solution to this equation ,but i am not able to figure out a standard proof , let me check   one more time
Catalogs Discussion Forums -> Organic Chemistry -> Haloform reations : Help -> Go to message
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I think it need more explanation , the above lines arent enough :-

First important think to note about that it is the carbonyl compound , so either it will proceed through their acidic hydrogen or necleophilic centre cabonyl carbon, in the present case , NaOH acts as a base to extract the acidic hydrogen of ------CH3
and this will continue until no hydrogen is left and these hydrogen will be replaced by  halogen , as soon as all hydrogen are consumed. Now -OH will attack carbonyl carbon as it is now more electron deficient due to -I effect of halogens , after nucleophilic attack , instead of additon , -CX3 grop will leave , leadin to final product.

Few special points:-

1) Knowing importance of leaving group is very important , it is this ability that decide the fate of the reaction. I suppose u must have notice  here a carbanion  act as a leaving group!!!!!!, one of the few rare case where carbanion act as a leaving  group( obviuosuly becuase of three halogens)
2) second , rate of the reaction is decide by this step , we can have  various exception cases where haloform reaction did not  occur , u shd be able to able figure that using this step.
3) One important fact also, ethyl alchol also gives Iodoform test , because they are oxidised to aldehyde in NaOH and X2.
Catalogs Discussion Forums -> Counselling Zone -> JEE scores -> Go to message
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for getting under 100 in JEE 2006 , it was around 340 , i dunt know exactly , but i was  +- 10 from here.

In JEE 2005 ,for getting into 100 it was 126
in JEE 2004 , for getting into 100 it was 112 +- 2 .
Catalogs Discussion Forums -> Counselling Zone -> [admin]: guidance required -> Go to message
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hi everyone ,
 I think Prakhyath is absolutely correct , i dont know whether others are correct or not but this man is correct.i personally think that arhinat books arent good for mathematics , they are just complete collection of questions from different sources.
What u need is understanding of mathematics , which i am very sorry to say hardly any indian writer offer. And as far as rankers saying is concerned , most of them follow their coaching teacher ( for any sort of new questions) arihant books are used mainly for the purpose of "practice" . For learning mathematics , i am very sorry to say but arihant isnt good( if u have source for learning u may use it for solving questionns), if u want to understand mathematics , take my words , do only optimum amount of problem preferably from some good foriegn authors as mentioned , but let me tell you analyse those problem properly , once u solve those problem try to find out why this question was asked , what kind of mistake u can make in these questions , further from here twist the problem , and once u r able to twist the problem , i spps u got the hold of mathematical concept. Last but not the least , evrybdy get the answer in mathematics , but there  are few who  know they are exactly correct(and after making mistake u even dont know that u have commited the mistake!!!!). mathematics is not abt solving , its about learning  how you can make mistake ????
Catalogs Discussion Forums -> Integral Calculus -> maths -> Go to message
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i dunt know why , puneet has cancel out the ( 1 + 2yp^3) from both side, i think one more possible solution is
shifting all the terms on the sam side , taking (1 + 2yp^3) as common
=> either the above solution or ( 1 + 2yp^3) = 0
=> p^3 = -1/2y
=> p = -1/(2y)^(1/3)

putting it in the equation that x = y/2p - y^2p^2/2 , we willget another possible solution.


Catalogs Discussion Forums -> Physical Chemistry -> ionic equilibrium -> Go to message
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i think u never need to remember any formula in Ionic equilibrium , this is 1 field in chemistry where u really dont need anything to remember except few basic rules .But the important factor is getting hold on those basic facts , and it will be more better for you if u start solving ionic problem from derivation rather than from knowing formula , otherwise u will be always in the shades of commiting mistakes
Catalogs Discussion Forums -> Organic Chemistry -> meervein ponndorf verley redn -> Go to message
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i do not have book , right here the steps of the reaction
Catalogs Discussion Forums -> Organic Chemistry -> meervein ponndorf verley redn -> Go to message
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brush up ur concept , i agree there will be hydrogen bonding after enol is formed , but whats so special about it , it should have been special if acetone would not been able to form H-bond,H-bonding was present with acetone as well as with enol form , so from where extra stabilisation came???????????? nobody knows ???

If u still think that u r correct provide me stepwise mechanism with reasoning at each step why that step is happening , i am giving u explanation why enol form will not be dominant, it will be more good if u can provide me some source from where i can read that  it is feasible , because i strictly feel that it is unfeasible , there may be 5-10% yield but it can never be major product , it will be also a new thing for me as i never think abt anything like this.
Catalogs Discussion Forums -> Vectors -> problem of 3d -> Go to message
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rahul , ur solution is wrong

Do u have any idea what u r doing in the answer

In question it is given that , points are non-coplanar and u r trying to find cases when points are non-coplanar, well dude there are infinite number of ways in which these points can be non-coplanar(think over it why), and next on what basis u r finding ways , how u r arranging these points ........................................................................................
And last fact , u r trying to say that given 4 points whenever u will make them non-coplanar they will give u a plane in between them which is equidistant from all four points ..............................i.e , completely irrelevant

Last but not the least question says , find the planes equidistant from 4 non-coplanar points that means points are fixed in space , and only information we are having about them is that they are coplanar , nothing more than that
Catalogs Discussion Forums -> Vectors -> problem of 3d -> Go to message
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Friends let me write the solution of this problem and also the mistake in the solution  provided by rashmi

What rashmi has done is that she has taken 3 points and then she draws a plane passing through all those points and then taken 4th point and she says we will find a plane which is equidistant from the plane we have drawn and from the last point ...........................this is correct , but is it exhaustive ......................no definitely not
What about those cases in which  plane will separate four  points , two above it and two below it...................................definitely that case isnt covered , and there is
4C2/2 ways to do this(divided by two because planes will be same in half of the case) , i.e , 3 cases.
Total number of possible planes are 7

This is correct because it is exhaustive , means  we cannot choose 4 points on same , plane as that will violate their non-coplanarity and 3,1 and 1,3 case are same , and (2,2) case is now covered.

 
 
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