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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 24 Jun 2007 12:39:37 IST
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1)For what value of a the equation x^2 - x(1-a) - (a+2) = 0 has integral roots.Find the roots. 2)If a<b<c<d prove that the equation (x-a)(x-c) + k(x-b)(x-d) = 0 has real solutions for all k(real nos.).
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 24 Jun 2007 12:53:38 IST
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for question one, I got the value of a = -2.
Roots are 3, 0.
Discriminant of the equation = a^2 + 2a + 9.
roots will be -b +/- sqrt (d) / 2a.
I know my solution looks ugly, but first tell me if my answer is right.
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 24 Jun 2007 15:37:00 IST
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d = (1-a)2 + 4(a+2) = a2 +2a +9 = (a+1)2 +8 4 integral sols d shud b perfect sq. d & (a+1)2 r perfect sq ie diff bw 2 perfect sq is 8 dis works only with 1 & 9 so (a+1)2 = 1 a + 1 =  1 a=0 ; a= -2;
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 24 Jun 2007 17:51:18 IST
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@lazycol
If d is a perfect square, then it is not necessary that the roots themselves will be integral. It cud even end up as a fraction, don't you think?
for example, if d is a perfect square, like 25, then its sqrt will be 5. But then it is not necessary that -b +/- sqrt d / (2a) needs to be integral...
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 24 Jun 2007 17:58:00 IST
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well indis case roots r (a-1) [ ] d/2 d& a-1 r odd as per my explanation(d=1,a=-2,0) so roots r integers
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 24 Jun 2007 18:07:09 IST
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let f(x) = (x-a)(x-c) + k(x-b)(x-d) f(b) =(b-a)(b-c) { -ve no:} f(d) =(d-a)(d-c) { +ve no:} ie f(x) changes its sign in (b,d) ie f(x) has a real root in (b,d) hence roots of f(x) r real { if one root is real,other also has 2 b so}
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 24 Jun 2007 18:18:11 IST
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I didnt quite follow your solution. can u elaborate?
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 24 Jun 2007 19:12:51 IST
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see, f(b)<0 ,f(d)>0 so f(x) changes its sign(initially -ve & later +ve) in the interval (b,d) f(x) being a continous fnt before it becomes +ve it shud pass through 0 ie f(x) has a root in (b,d)
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 24 Jun 2007 21:58:52 IST
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We can even do this for the interval (a, c) right?
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 25 Jun 2007 08:33:44 IST
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yes u can..... again u get 1 root in (a,c) i just gave 1 interval here u can go 4 any of 2
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