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could anyone solve sum no 57-64

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Here is 59 solved by Biki.

let angle made =  (as shown in figure)
let v = velocity just before falling
So at an instant just before falling---
mv2/r = mg.cos _____(1).........where m = mass, r = radius of the sphere
or v2/r = g.cos _____(1)
 
again change in K.E. = (1/2)mv2 - 0 ......as initial velocity = 0
and loss in P.E. mg(r - r.cos)
So (1/2)mv2 = mg(r - r.cos)
or v2/2 = gr (1 - cos)
or v2/r = 2g(1 - cos)
or g.cos = 2g - 2g.cos
or 3g.cos = 2g
or cos = 2/3
or  = cos-1(2/3)



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could u solve the other sums

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Here u find another of Biki. Q.56.

Consider the first figure ...
In this fig. we will find out what should be the velocity of the bob at the lowest position so that the string becomes slack ( i,e, T = 0 )  at the horizontal diameter..
Now the weight acts perpendicular to the tension at this position and so has no component along the string....
So taking v =velocity at that point and T = tension and l = length of string....
we have T = mv2/l..
Now let u = velocity of the bob at lowest position so that the bob acquires velocity = v at the horizontal diameter....
So ... 1/2.mu2 = 1/2mv2 + mgl
or v2 = u2 - 2gl
Using this in equ^n of T.... we have
T = m(u2 - 2gl)/l
If string becomes slack.... T = 0
i,e, m(u2 - 2gl)/l = 0
or u2 - 2gl = 0
or u = 2gl
So we see that if velocity at lowest position should be equal to 2gl such that the string becomes slack at the horizontal diameter...
And see HCV-1 page 128 , example 8 where you will find that the velocity at lowesrt position  such that the bob complets a full circle is 5gl .
So we conclude that.....
if velocity is less than 2gl, then string becomes slack below the horizontal diameter.
if velocity = 2gl, then string becomes slack at horizontal diameter..
if velocity is greater than 2gl but less than 5gl, then string becomes slack in the region between the horizontal diameter and the topmost position....



Taking this into consideration.... the question says that in the question the string becomes slack between the horizontal diameter and the topmost position...as velocity = 3gl...
Now consider fig. 2
Let velocity at lowest position = u =3gl
velocity at the point of slackening = v
So ...
taking the angles as shown in fig.
we write.....
T + mg.cos = mv2/l
for string to become slack ... T = 0
i,e, mg.cos = mv2/l
or gl.cos = v2 _________ (1)
And using energy conservation .....
1/2mu2 = 1/2mv2 + mg( l + l.cos )
i,e, v2 = u2 - 2gl ( 1 + cos )
or v2 = 3gl - 2gl - 2gl.cos
or v2 = gl - 2gl.cos ________(2)
Using (2) in (1)...
gl.cos = gl - 2gl.cos
or 3gl.cos = gl
or cos = (1/3)
or cos (180 -  ) = (1/3) .........[ as  = 180 -  ]
or - cos = (1/3)
or cos = (-1/3)
i,e,  = cos-1(-1/3)




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pls anyone solvew these sums

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51)Since the potential energy remains constant, Equate the energy in the spring at instant to the kinetic energy at the vertical position.

length of the spring at the given instant is h/cos37 = 5h/4

That means the elongation is h/4.

(1/2)kh2/16 = (1/2)mv2

You get the answer to be v=(h/4)(sqrt(k/m))

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pls solve the others. neone??

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anyone give hint for 52
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Ok, here's for 52

The velocity after falling through height h, i.e 2gh should be equal to minimum velocity for a mass to complete a vertical loop when in horizontal position = 2gR

Here R = l

Thus, h = l

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62)
a)
 the work done in  projecting the block up the incline=mglsin@
the work done in projecting up the sphere=change in potentiol energy of the system=mgr(1-cos@) from the geometry of the figure
1/2mv^2=mgr(1-cos@)+mglsin@
solving it
v= root 2g(r(1-cos@) +lsin@)
b)
1/2m(2v)^2=mgr(1-cos@)+mglsin@+1/2m(v1)^2
mgr(1-cos@)+mglsin@=1/2mv^2
at the top n+mg=mv^2/r
solving the above equations we get the force acting as
6mg(1-cos@+l/rsin@)
c)
let the particle make an angle@ when it leaves the sphere
mgcos@=mv^2/r
mgr(1-cos@)=1/2mv^2
solving it we get cos inverse 2/3
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51)

let the block A start loosing contact with the surface below it at A' after traveling a distance x( fig 1)
in this process the block b will shift from B to B' such that BB' =AA'=x ( as string is inextensible). and hence there is a loss of gravitational potential energy=mgx

This energy is stored in the spring which is stretched by L and partly appears as kinetic energy of block A and block B. so by conservation of energy we have


mgx=1/2mv^{2} + 1/2mv^2+ 1/2 k(L)^2

  this gives v^2=gx- k/2m(L)^2
-    --------------------1

now for vertical equilibrium of A at A'

N+Fcos=mg
but F=k(L)
and N=0 

so k(L)cos=mg
---------------------------------------------------------2


further by geometry we get

(L)=L/cos-L=L[1/cos-1]--------------------------3


so substituting the value of (L) from eqn 3 in 2 and solving for cos, we get

 cos=4/5

(L)=L/cos-L = 0.1 m

by geometry x=L tan

x=0.3 m


substituting the value of (L) and x in eqn 1 get

V=1.5 m/s


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