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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 18 May 2008 19:36:56 IST
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WHY THE OSMOTIC PRESSURE IS DEPENDENT ON SOLUTE CONC. NOT ON SOLVENT CONC.
LETS SEE WHO POST THE CORRECT ANSWER
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18 May 2008 19:53:51 IST
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coz
pi = CRT
now C=n/V
n is number of moles of solute
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18 May 2008 20:00:25 IST
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NO ASHY I DON'T WANT THE ANSWER ON THE BASIS OF FORMULA
I ASK FOR THEORTICAL REASON......
NOW DON'T SEARCH ON NET FOR ITS DERIVATION IT HAS
NO DERIVATION ...........IT IS EXPERIMENTAL
BUT WHY IT DPENDS ON IT........?
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MAN WOULD DO NOTHING IF HE WAITED UNTIL HE COULD DO IT SO WELL THAT NO OTHER BEING CAN FIND FAULT WITH IT..................NEWMAN
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18 May 2008 20:02:01 IST
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u dont have to search on the net for it..
:P
the formula itself says everything
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Remember Cedric. Remember, if the time should come when you have to make a choice between what is right and what is easy, remember what happened to a boy who was good, and kind, and brave, because he strayed across the path of Lord Voldemort. Remember Cedric Diggory.
Albus Dumbledore
Goblet of Fire, Chapter 37, Page 724
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18 May 2008 20:03:28 IST
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Because Osmotic pressure is a colligative property which depend only on the amount of solute present not on the natutre of solute not on solvent or anything just on the amount of solute particles
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18 May 2008 20:11:02 IST
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Buddy,
U R confused.
Concentration is defined only for that substance which not present in excess.
Concentration means- How much substance is present in some excess solvent.
How can u define concentration of solvent????????
Conc=moles/volume
If u try to define concentration of solvent, then whose volume wud you take?????
U cant take the volume of solute becoz it is present in very small amount.
Hope you get it!!
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18 May 2008 20:12:03 IST
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OH SO GOD CAME GAVE THE FORMULA AND WENT AWAY....
AND GOD SAID IT IS A COLLIGATIVE PROPERTY....
ESHAAN YOU ARE SO FUNNY .... IT DEPENDS ON SOLUTE CONC.
SO IT IS COLLIGATIVE PROP. NOT THAT IT IS COLLIGATIVE PROP.
SO IT DEPENDS ON SOLUTE CONC. HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND
YOU ARE USING THE CONCLUSION TO DERIVE THE RESULT AND REASON
THERE IS A LONG BUT VERY GOOD REASON WHICH I HAVE FOUND
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18 May 2008 20:15:38 IST
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IS TARRIN BANSAL MAD...............
MAN ARE YOU DRUNK............
YOU THE F... SAID SOLVENT CAN BE MEASURED IN TERMS OF CONC.
HAVEN'T YOU SEEN THIS YEARS JEE PAPER .....
WATER AND ALCHOL SOLN. WHERE WATER WAS THE SOLVENT AND ITS MOLE FRACTION IS 0.9 BETA ....HOW GOT 243 RATES
THE ANSWER IS BASED ON THE - RELATIVE ESTABLISHMENT OF
EQUILBRIUM BETWEEN MOLECULES "
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18 May 2008 20:24:47 IST
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Well, dude.
Maybe I am drunk but I think you are also out of ur minds this time.
How can u take the example of liquid and alcohol?????
For ur kind information, osmotic pressure can be found only when solute is non volatile solid NOT a liquid.
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18 May 2008 20:26:37 IST
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@blade x or watever it is........
well wat do u consider urself.......
rates pe jaata hai........ sharam nahin aayi.......... tujhe ....
wat nonsense are u typing.......... well are frm this wrld? ......... dun thnk so............
bohat dum hai na tujhme
wat do u thnk of urself............
ek do quest......... i hve seen of urs.......... very utpatang quest .... more importantly useless and crap..........
i dun hve any objection in dat ... we all hve rit to post quest....similarly we all hve rits to post our views on quest..
watevr it may b....
par tujhe ... who gave u the rit to tell someone lik that.......... bohT HIMMAT aaa gayi hai na ....huh
whu gave u those rates even .......... u shudnt have got one also.........
ur sentences invite a fight............. u hve alws been lik that.........
u seem to be just a bigger fool in da long race.......
no one shud help u.........
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18 May 2008 20:28:49 IST
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well Mr baldeX,
pls explain how can conc. of solvent be defined ?
also, can u post ur answer here ?
thanks !
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18 May 2008 20:30:10 IST
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yeah bladey boy saurabh's right.
Kahin se faltu se question ka faltu sa reason pad aaya hai aur bahut chauda ho raha hai us par.
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18 May 2008 20:34:10 IST
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WHY THE OSMOTIC PRESSURE IS DEPENDENT ON SOLUTE CONC. NOT ON SOLVENT CONC.
Solvent is the component of the solution which is present in excess... ALways the excess quantity plays negligible role. The concentration of solute (component which is lesser in qty than solvent) is what matters as a balancing force will try to equalise concentration of solute particles between the media in contact which have diff. conc of solute for the same solvent.
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18 May 2008 23:51:57 IST
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Mr Bladex/chem genius or whatever,
Now I hav a sure shot answer to ur crappy question and that too from the Maestro Dr. P. Bahadur.
When I asked this ques to him, his first reaction was-''Yeh kaisa bevakoofi ka question hai''. SO it proves that your question is just crap.
But still, the answer given by him-
All the colligative properties depend upon the number of solute particles present in the solution. There properties arise due to the bombardment by the solute particles. So, it itself means that we dont need to bother about the solvent.
Always remember- Osmosis is not due to osmotic pressure. Osmotic pressure is due to osmosis and osmosis happens by virtue of movement of solute particles.
And about my previous explanation-It was correct too.
We cant define concentration of solvent in a solution of a solvent and a non volatile solid solute. Concentration of solvent can be defined only when it is pure solution. For example-molarity of water in pure water is 55.55
So, watever he explained me, I hav posted it here and I cant doubt his answers and I dont think many ppl wud dare to give a second thought to his answers.
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