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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 13 Sep 2008 20:37:27 IST
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in how many ways 1452 can be expressed as sum of squares of two natural numbers
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 14 Sep 2008 11:27:14 IST
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You are looking for natural numbers a and b such that a2+b2 = 1452 which means (a,b,145) form a Pythagorean triplet.
Every Pythagorean triplet is of the form 
Hence our task is here is to find out whether there exist numbers u,v such that u2+v2 = 145 and u>v.
You only have to check for u = 12,11,10 and 9 (as 82 = 64< 1/2 * 145) and you can see that the only possible pairs are (12,1) and (9,8)
Thus there are two solutions and corresponding to these choices of u and v.
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 14 Sep 2008 14:59:21 IST
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You only have to check for u = 12,11,10 and 9 (as 82 = 64< 1/2 * 145)???? Sir, will u PLZ explain this a bit more elaborately?
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 14 Sep 2008 16:48:09 IST
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but the answer given is 4. i.e there are 4 such pairs possible.
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 14 Sep 2008 18:14:30 IST
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@hamba: Since a = u2-v2>0, we need u>v. So if u2+v2 = 145, u2>145/2. Hence u>8. That is why checking for 12,11,10 and 9 suffices
@sourab: Well there just arent any other natural numbers. I guess they mean ordered pairs i.e they distinguish between (24,143) and (1433,24). Likewise (144,17) and (17,144) are distinctive pairs. That way its 4.
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 14 Sep 2008 19:37:20 IST
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ok here are other two,
but how they got i dunno.
1452= (122-12)2 + [2(12)(1)]2
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1452= (92-82)2 + [2(9)(8)]2
plz explain these
thnx
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 14 Sep 2008 19:55:24 IST
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yeah, sachin alerted me about it and I remembered that the pair (u2-v2, 2uv, u2+v2) is a primitive solution i.e. the gcd of the numbers is 1. So the general solution set is [k(u2-v2), 2kuv, k(u2+v2)]
So, we have to search for numbers k,u and v such that k(u2+v2) = 145
For k = 1 we have already obtained the solutions. Since k divides 145, k can now be only 5 or 29
If k = 5, then u2+v2 = 29. So u = 5 and v = 3 is the only possibility and we obtain the solution (105,100)
Next for k = 29, u2+v2 = 5 and for this we obtain a solution which sachin pointed out which is (116,87)
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 14 Sep 2008 19:56:28 IST
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sorry, I somehow forgot that the solution set was for primitive roots for that equation. So the four pairs are
(105,100), (116,87),(143,24) and (144,17)
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 14 Sep 2008 20:20:48 IST
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thnx
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 14 Sep 2008 22:19:16 IST
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Thank u sir........
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